Episode 5 continues our previous conversation with Shawn Warner-Garcia who talks about the impact of how religious speech becomes part of the problem regarding violations of consent. We also hear from Lyndsey Godwin, the Assistant Director of the Carpenter Program in Religion, Gender, and Sexuality at Vanderbilt Divinity School, about the lasting impact of sexual purity programs even on young adults attending seminary today. Why do Christian congregations experience the same level of abuse as the general public? Shawn Warner-Garcia talks about her research.